tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283072392763163737.post4948431146261165572..comments2024-02-27T12:41:35.811-08:00Comments on Coming to Terms...: The Conversation PoliceLisa :-]http://www.blogger.com/profile/02237889098638895390noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283072392763163737.post-64055477880968662772004-05-30T21:57:00.000-07:002004-05-30T21:57:00.000-07:00OMG!! You just described ANY tavern luncheon date...OMG!! You just described ANY tavern luncheon date with my best friends and/or my husband! The nerve of that smarmy little nothing! My hubby would've gladly retweaked his language, as would most of my friends--or, as you suggest, not even used THAT language in the first place-- but that is NOT the point! What were the young domestics thinking? We'll acclimate our children to the smell of beer and pub fries early on... but let's be sickening little parents who look upon language as more hurtful than, say, manners? If my parents took me to a pub when I was 3 (and I would not be surprised if they had)-- you can be darned sure I would NOT purposely spill my milk. I'd have heard some LANGUAGE then, boy!<br><br>I'm with you.<br>They call me~~<br>huh, <br>MumsyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283072392763163737.post-51717224022950225422004-05-30T22:45:00.000-07:002004-05-30T22:45:00.000-07:00Well, my nine year daughter was at a Beer Garden l...Well, my nine year daughter was at a Beer Garden last night with my husband and had the time of her life..but she hears some pretty colorful language around here at times. She has been known to utter a few lively terms herself. When I separated my shoulder at the dojo a few years ago, she heard words she did not know I knew! Since we are trying not to teach the baby to say them, we are all trying to clean up our 'potty mouths' around here.<br> The woman gives real Super Moms like me a bad name. ROFL What she SHOULD have done was move to another table, or just quietly explain that other families have different rules about what is acceptable.<br> I don't have problems with people taking their kids out to eat--I do it all the time--but I do expect that they behave. Dumping glasses of milk intentionally just would not happen. I also clean up after my kids.<br> The only time I ever say anything to anyone about language tends to be to young men who are walking around my neighborhood shouting F@#$ at everything (just in case you ever have aspirations of being an AOL pick I'll keep it clean) or referring to women as parts of their anatomy. I give them the gimlet mom eye and they invariably are embarrassed. I ALWAYS say things to someone uttering a racial slur, which doesn't happen here much, even though we are the official Gateway to the South.<br> Just today I corrected the little boy I am hoping to adopt who was calling the girls "peckers." I asked him what it meant, he didn't know, and I explained that it is not a polite term for penis, and that the girls don't have one anyway. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283072392763163737.post-90024927851512296812004-05-31T04:35:00.000-07:002004-05-31T04:35:00.000-07:00Sorry, I am just chuckling. Friends and I were ta...Sorry, I am just chuckling. Friends and I were talking yesterday about whether we have done too much for our kids -- the perennial conversation of parents of teens and early 20s. I can assure you that interrupting another group at a restaurant to ask them to curb their language reaches a level of overprotectiveness that I don't think even any of us ever imagined.<br><br>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283072392763163737.post-71055697945771631192004-05-31T06:08:00.000-07:002004-05-31T06:08:00.000-07:00LOL This "perfect" mom is in for a huge...LOL This "perfect" mom is in for a huge surprise when her precious little angels start school! Alas, "naughty" words can be heard all over the playground, even in the very young grades. What's she going to do then? It's up to her to practice what she preaches and hope her kids follow her example. It's up to her to teach them that people express themselves in different ways.<br><br>And I agree with you; a family with small children has no business being in a Tavern. They want to have lunch in a Tavern? Hire a babysitter! They should've switched tables if they were so uncomfortable.<br><br>I wish I had some of your courage to assert myself like this at times. Kudos to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283072392763163737.post-68799515087175219872004-05-31T07:38:00.000-07:002004-05-31T07:38:00.000-07:00Nope, would never have taken young children to tha...Nope, would never have taken young children to that type establishment- why would kids be allowed in anyway? Sounds like young mom needed to stick to her own table anyway and teach her kid how to behave. From what you describe the 3 year old didn't have an accident, he/she intentionally poured the milk out. That's a no-no, not an ah-oh. KristiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283072392763163737.post-86477079557351645872004-05-31T07:51:00.001-07:002004-05-31T07:51:00.001-07:00I'm not really one to use a lot of "naugh...I'm not really one to use a lot of "naughty language." But, eaves drop on my conversation and your ears might burn red. It's not necessarily the words used but the topic of my conversation that would have made that woman turn three shades of purple. However, whether it's a tavern, or McD's I'll talk about what I damn well please. If she doesn't like it, she can move. I'm a paying patron just like she is. When she pays my tab and pays my rent and everything else to maintain my lifestyle, she can tell me what to say in a public place. Good for you for speaking up! :-) ---RobbieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283072392763163737.post-80660585068402291722004-05-31T07:51:00.000-07:002004-05-31T07:51:00.000-07:00I'm glad you stood for yourself. You don'...I'm glad you stood for yourself. You don't take children to sit-down adult restaurants until they're old enough to behave themselves in that environment. You also don't tell adults how to behave themselves. You tell children what your expectations of their behavior are, and then you enforce them. That milk spilling sounded more like attention getting than an accident. I've got problems with the "propriety police" of this world. The language an adult uses is their choice, and you tell kids that you hope it's not their choice. I'm a fairly proper person, but my language is savory. My daughter learned context is everything! As for taking children to a tavern, I'd have to see the place. One of our favorite restaurants has pub as part of its name, but it's really a family friendly place. I don't think real taverns, pubs and bars are any place for kidsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283072392763163737.post-41311528136757558392004-05-31T10:18:00.000-07:002004-05-31T10:18:00.000-07:00Lisa--You're my new HERO!!!!What's hysterical ...Lisa--You're my new HERO!!!!<br><br>What's hysterical about this...other than the nerve of the lady coming to your table to tell you to PG your conversation, and YOU hightailing it over there to give her a peice of YOUR mind, is the fact that most parents feel just as you do. When we go out to eat, we want to GET AWAY from the kiddos and the spills, and the noise, etc., too. You are absolutely correct in saying that they should not be at a tavern with children. And if they were SO offended, then THEY should have asked to be moved to a different table. Some adults, upon becoming parents, seem to feel the need to act like a parent to just about EVERYONE. <br><br>I applaud you for not tossing a drink in her face...Way to show restraint!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283072392763163737.post-41956586596527692992004-06-01T09:20:00.000-07:002004-06-01T09:20:00.000-07:00First let me say this You Were At Rock Creek Taver...First let me say this You Were At Rock Creek Tavern and didn't call me?????LOL<br>My husband and I too like to go to Taverns for burgers they just seem to have the best! ANd when we want to only deal with grown ups that should be the venue of choice. And it is amazing how often people bring their children to Taverns and then expect everyone to accomondate them. Just doesn't make sense to me. When my children were small we went to family restaurants...not grown ups places!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283072392763163737.post-62314452813909823702004-06-01T10:01:00.000-07:002004-06-01T10:01:00.000-07:00I can't believe that she approached you....the...I can't believe that she approached you....they should have switched tables. Those children are not growing up on a private island...strong language in a place like a bar is part of living in our society. If it's that offensive to them, I hope they take that into consideration the next time they're thinking of walking into a tavern. The kids are going to hear ALL those words and more eventually. I doubt the kid even picked up on it...but if he did...then mom would have had an opportunity to share her values with him. You are not required to live your life set to her expectations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283072392763163737.post-46770373390943998082004-06-08T18:13:00.000-07:002004-06-08T18:13:00.000-07:00Well, if the place isn't appropriate for child...Well, if the place isn't appropriate for children, I wouldn't take mine in there. Of course, I don't have any problem with taking my child to eat at a "sit-down" restaurant, and never have.<br><br>However, if this woman had a problem with your conversation, then she should have moved her family to another table where she couldn't hear it. It was extremely rude for her to think she had a right to dictate how your conversation should be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com